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Buy yourself a backhoe or drill and roller and install your own ground loop. Pay someone to do the rest and do business together. This will be a growing industry as the weather becomes more erratic.
Currently, the main installers of air-to-water heat pumps ask/receive a salary of 1000 euros per person per day. If the water installer could charge a fee, it wouldn’t take that long to pay for the rig.
This is a reversible air conditioner. You are clearly from North America. Somehow, in North America, large companies managed to produce air conditioners only without valves for reversing the cycle. They can then charge extra for a special installation for a reversible heat pump.
However, heat pumps are ubiquitous in the hospitality industry across the country. If you’ve ever been in a room with a wall-mounted device that can be controlled with a remote control that heats or cools, it’s a heat pump.
Sure? There is a commercially available pump [templari.com] that will give you a 2.4x boost even down to -20C.
With a heat pump, you can capture heat when the day gets warmer and store it in a tank for use at night.
Sure? There is a commercially available pump [templari.com] that will give you a 2.4x boost even down to -20C.
With a heat pump, you can capture heat when the day gets warmer and store it in a tank for use at night.
I’d like one, but stretching down to -20 or even down to -30 is not uncommon in Edmonton, especially if the polar vortex expands more frequently [ucdavis.edu]. I heard they are getting better but I think a spare gas oven is still a good idea.
To be sure, heat pumps fall into the same rhetorical traps as electric vehicles. Some people think that this concept does not work because it does not satisfy everyone everywhere at the same time.
For most of Canada? The gas will still dominate for a while, it’s just that it’s so cold that it can be life-threatening at times. For the bottom 50% in the US, heat pumps can completely replace gas and electric resistance heaters. Almost all systems will still have resistive emergency heaters for those 1% unusual events.
To be sure, heat pumps fall into the same rhetorical traps as electric vehicles. Some people think that this concept does not work because it does not satisfy everyone everywhere at the same time.
For most of Canada? The gas will still dominate for a while, it’s just that it’s so cold that it can be life-threatening at times. For the bottom 50% in the US, heat pumps can completely replace gas and electric resistance heaters. Almost all systems will still have resistive emergency heaters for those 1% unusual events.
Basically, I have no problem with heat pumps, I would like to get one and only run my stove at -20. At the very least, I’ll need some form of AC, but I’m not sure the cost of AC alone is justified.
Of course, I ask if central air conditioning is common in some parts of Canada. It makes sense to change the old air conditioner to a new one with a heat pump. Installing an air conditioner in a house that it was not built for is a completely different matter. still makes sense, but a completely different calculus
The heat pump can be replaced wherever there is a forced air gas or oil oven. However, they will require electrical work.
Of course, I ask if central air conditioning is common in some parts of Canada. It makes sense to change the old air conditioner to a new one with a heat pump. Installing an air conditioner in a house that it was not built for is a completely different matter. still makes sense, but a completely different calculus
Traditionally, no. The house is usually nice in the heat if you keep the curtains closed. But things are changing as we’ve had several brutal heatwaves in the last few years reaching 30+ degrees. In fact, I had to move to my parents’ house (with air conditioning) because it was very hot in mine.
– They are similar to freezer cool bags, but melt at 59F or 70F, depending on the temperature you choose. This means they can be frozen in the freezer and applied to the skin and keep for an hour or so. I use them to sleep in the summer as we don’t have AC, much better than a fan. (or use both in extreme heat).
Yes, it would be better if we had a “geothermal heat pump wellbore system” that was much cheaper to operate than SpaceX rockets than “old space” companies.
I researched how much geothermal energy would cost my home and was quoted $100,000. I think it’s a “we don’t want to disturb, go away” quote.
I hate it when contractors don’t want to give me a rough estimate: “well, I’ll call you to get an exact price when I have enough money”, a rough estimate. I don’t need documents, but it will be 10,000, 50,000 dollars,
Depends where you live. If the outside temperature is mostly below 0, then the geothermal benefits are enormous. The temperature is stable at 13-14 degrees throughout the year, so it is enough to raise the temperature by about 20-25 degrees to prepare hot water by 35-40 degrees. Also, with geothermal heat, you are also cooling because you are cooling your home in warm ground at 14 degrees (compared to hot ambient air at 35 degrees).
I suspect that when the cost of drilling for water becomes fully commercialized, groundwater heat pumps will become competitive even for small projects. Also use FCU for air conditioning.
The fact that they have to run on AC rather than a pure zero heat load will eventually lead to a rise in the frost line.
A friend from Dallas replaced the resistance heat with a heat pump. He said he calculated an ROI of about 33%. No brains!
Politically, we are far from a carbon tax, and a double property tax could be regressive, so subsidies are the most viable way forward.
Property taxes are local taxes in the state, and some counties levy additional taxes. Without a state property tax, trying to get it through Congress would be impossible.
Clearly. I think the biggest problem is that the rental market (about half of the housing in the US) separates capital investment from operating costs. One landlord I know dismisses ROI as “but I don’t pay the bills” and doesn’t seem to think that a more energy efficient rent justifies a higher rent. They’re probably right because most tenants don’t check utility bills before renting. One idea to fix this discrepancy is to require landlords to publish their average monthly utility bills for the last year.
It is also recommended to ban electrical resistance as the primary means of heating in new buildings as part of building codes.
you are right. But in some parts of the US (Bay area), resistive heating is the only type of heating allowed in new construction. The climate in the bay area is too mild for heat pumps to operate, and the use of natural gas in new buildings is prohibited. We really need some sort of engineering or science committee where politicians have to let go of ideas before they pass to prevent these bad policies. Just ask the contractor (i.e. the person who builds the house) for some environmental regulations.
They must choose Lead or Silver. If they don’t, escalate subsidies or cut taxes.
This attitude is very useless. It just fuels the other side because it’s so extreme it’s fodder for Tucker. Please, STFU. In addition, heat pumps are not available everywhere. They probably work in Dallas and not in the Bay Area and it’s confusing to work in colder regions further north again. They just need a decent heat drop to work anyway. When they are, they are very useful because they are very efficient. When they are not, your attitude tends to increase heat resistance.
They must choose Lead or Silver. If they don’t, escalate subsidies or cut taxes.
Let me guess… You’ll be here complaining later about how they live in tents on the sidewalk after your policies kicked them out.
Even most Canadians live in places where air source heat pumps work well. The southern coast of British Columbia never drops below -15, and southern Ontario rarely gets too cold. This is more than half of the population of these areas.
To be sure, heat pumps fall into the same rhetorical traps as electric vehicles. Some people think that this concept does not work because it does not satisfy everyone everywhere at the same time.
For most of Canada? The gas will still dominate for a while, it’s just that it’s so cold that it can be life-threatening at times. For the bottom 50% in the US, heat pumps can completely replace gas and electric resistance heaters. Almost all systems will still have resistive emergency heaters for those 1% unusual events.
The number of people living in those regions is relatively low.90% of Canada’s population live within 150 miles of the US border & at least 80% of those would be well-served by heat pumps that have been available for decades.Full disclosure, in the past 50 years, I’ve spent roughly 20 winters in various Canadian cities, mostly Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal & Sherbrooke. The number of people living in those regions is relatively low.90% of Canada’s population live within 150 miles of the US border & at least 80% of those would be well-served by heat pumps that have been available for decades.Full disclosure, in the past 50 years, I’ve roughly spent 20 winters in various Canadian cities, mostly Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal & Sherbrooke. The number of people living in these regions is relatively small. 90% of Canada’s population lives within 150 miles of the US border, and at least 80% of them would be well served by the heat pumps that have been available for decades. Full disclosure. Over the past 50 years, I have spent approximately 20 winters in various Canadian cities, mainly in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal and Sherbrooke. The number of people living in these areas is relatively small. Ninety percent of Canada’s population lives within 150 miles of the US border, and at least 80 percent of them have access to decades-old heat pumps. Full revelation, over the past 50 years I have spent about 20 winters in different Canadian cities, mainly in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal and Sherbrooke. A childhood friend was used to deliver heating oil in the Montreal region & when there was a huge spike in the price in the mid-200 A childhood friend was used to deliver heating oil in the Montreal region & when there was a huge spike in the price in the mid-200 A childhood friend was used to deliver heating oil in Montreal when prices skyrocketed in the mid-200s.一个儿时的朋友被用来在蒙特利尔地区运送取暖油& 当价格在200 美元中期大幅飙升时一个儿时的朋友被用来在蒙特利尔地区运送取暖油& 当价格在200 美元中期大幅飙升时 A childhood friend was used to deliver fuel oil in the Montreal area when prices skyrocketed to the mid-$200s.
But Edmonton’s temperature statistics show that the average winter temperature is -15 degrees Celsius. While I admit that you can go as low as -30, the question is not whether it will be a clean sweep on any particular night, but the average. Typical air-to-water heat pumps can be supplemented with gas or even electric “traditional” heating to overcome their truly inaccessible value.
But Edmonton’s temperature statistics show that the average winter temperature is -15 degrees Celsius. While I admit that you can go as low as -30, the question is not whether it will be a clean sweep on any particular night, but the average.
This is only partly about the average. If reducing efficiency in the -30 range saves more money than at other times, or worse, if the heat pump can’t actually handle the temperature difference.
Typical air-to-water heat pumps can be supplemented with gas or even electric “traditional” heating to overcome their truly inaccessible value.
Of course, if you have access to a ground source heat pump (i.e. a well about 100 meters deep), then you’re fine. It’s about 12-14 degrees Celsius there, so nothing else is needed.
Some people also use a wood burning fireplace, if only for its “atmosphere”. Doing this a dozen nights during the winter is still better than heating with natural gas all year round.
Geothermal energy was not a practical solution for the existing structure. The same goes for wood-burning fireplaces (also a risk of fire, not to mention air pollution and some heat loss through the chimney).
A hybrid heat pump is an integrated all-in-one unit that runs on electricity until it shuts off and then supplements the rest with gas.
I don’t know who modified you, but neither they nor you seem to understand how cold it is in Montana, let alone Canada.
In the northern US Midwest, -20 C is a common overnight low in January and February. We will have at least one week of -25C overnight lows and hit -30C at least once a year. From time to time we encounter colder temperatures than this.